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h9dlb · Dec 21, 2007, 12:24 PM // 12:24

Just got factions and installing - which class is most fun to play - ritualist or assasin ?

Coridan · Dec 21, 2007, 12:35 PM // 12:35

i would say if you are experienced go with an assassin ....if not try the rit

Toutatis · Dec 21, 2007, 12:37 PM // 12:37

I enjoy both of them. Although of the two of them, my preference would be for the assassin.

Though if you start playing as an assassin, remember these two things: Assassins are squishy compared to Warriors, and a lot of monsters in Factions explode on death. Expect your death count to go up very quickly while you learn how to play the class

Crom The Pale · Dec 21, 2007, 12:59 PM // 12:59

Personally I find the Ritualist much more fun to play.

They have a good variety of builds.

Rits can be support healers with Restoration, party buffers with Weapon spells, Spirit spamers that can deal damage inflict conditions remove enchants and interupt, and with Channelling you get some of the most powerfull Lightning attack spells in all of GW.

If your playing PvE then the Rit is deffinatly the better choice in my oppinion.

Stormlord Alex · Dec 21, 2007, 01:03 PM // 13:03

The Ritualist is a support hybrid class, capable of healing and offensively buffing at the same time.
[skill]ancestors' rage[/skill] and [skill]splinter weapon[/skill] are two of the strongest offensive skills out there.

The Assassin... kills stuff, basically. They're fragile but powerful.

God of the blade · Dec 21, 2007, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Ritualist = party support, summoning spirits, aid your team by enhancing their weapons

Assassin = basicly kill things under 3 seconds in pvp :/ , assassins are very weak based on defense, but make it up with their deadly dagger combo's

i play them both and my choice goes to my assassin

Shadow Spirit · Dec 21, 2007, 03:58 PM // 15:58

I've been enjoying playing my Assassin a lot lately. But as others have said, remeber you are not a warrior. In and out quick strikes is the strength of the class.

Rits are fun too and there are some great farming builds for them (if you're into that kind of thing) mostly based around [card]Vengeful Was Khanhei[/card]

Neo Nugget · Dec 21, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02

I don't like the stress of playing a monk, the ritualist doesn't have as much pressure, good for support plus they have nifty damage skills.

Assassins are also fun to play too

free_fall · Dec 21, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02

I hated playing my assassin and was never so glad to finish a campaign with a char as I was with him. Now, I'll be the first to admit I wasn't very good at it - I just couldn't seem to get the hang of it. People who have gotten the hang of it have my admiration and I have seen a few good assassins do some really amazing things (like the one I watched solo Scareater 7 times in a row - we go out the door, he runs over to Scareater, bang!, Scareater's dead and the sin is back beside me). Most sins I've encountered in the game (including my own) seem to spend more time dead than alive - their only purpose to supply a steady source of minions for Olias.

On the other hand, my rit breezed through all 3 campaigns, never even using any elites (other than to cap something, try it out a bit and then take it off my bar). I had such a rollicking good time playing her that I made another one, who is now my 1st char to achieve Legendary Survivor title.

**cosyfiep** · Dec 21, 2007, 07:00 PM // 19:00

the assassin is more difficult to get the 'hang' of, and many pugs will not take them in their party (if you have a good guild then you might fair better), rits have more than just restoration at their disposal. I have 2 rits and they do a fair amount of damage using channeling spells (using just bloodsong, essence strike and spirit burn....and then if its a stationary target spirit rift....lots of damage---there are more that I use but these are my favs). Rits can be defensive with weapon skills as well.

It all depends on what you want to do with the game, if you are just getting factions you will get 2 character slots so you can try both out and see which one fits your type of game play (I have and I still cant get a good handle on the 'sin

, but then again I just started my first warrior a few months ago as well--never like what they looked like!).SO try them out and see which you prefer (and you can always delete one if you dont like it).

good luck on whichever you decide upon!

h9dlb · Dec 21, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07

Well guys you put me off assassin (which is a shame cos I have already collected loads of Gold Daggers), so I chose Ritualist which I am finding to be very different compared to the Warrior I ran through Nightfall, Prophecies & Gwen.

Anyway cant understand why so many people slag off Factions because I think it's great. It is a little easy (I got to level 5 in about 90 minutes) but whose complaining !

silv3rr · Dec 22, 2007, 03:59 AM // 03:59

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Originally Posted by h9dlb

Well guys you put me off assassin (which is a shame cos I have already collected loads of Gold Daggers), so I chose Ritualist which I am finding to be very different compared to the Warrior I ran through Nightfall, Prophecies & Gwen.

Anyway cant understand why so many people slag off Factions because I think it's great. It is a little easy (I got to level 5 in about 90 minutes) but whose complaining !

Did you expect Ritualists to be similar to your warrior? O.o

Seeing as how you're familiar with melee already, since you're at level 5, why not give the assassin a try?

Woop Shotty · Dec 22, 2007, 09:04 AM // 09:04

Ritualists are more fun to play and are accepted into groups more often. Ritualists all the way!

Spellcasters are more fun usually anyway.

Vargs · Dec 22, 2007, 10:03 AM // 10:03

I don't understand the whole "Assassin is hard to play" thing. Now I haven't done anything on my sin other than complete Factions and a bit of Nightfall, but I definitely felt it was an easy class to play, at least using a cookie cutter Moebius Blossom build. Things may change on HM and whatnot, but I just don't get it when people complain about dying constantly as a sin in NM.

I'd generally just hit critical defenses/critical agility (crit defenses wore off mid fight half the time but it never mattered) and sprint right into the fray ahead of my henchies, which according to this board is a death wish. Use critical eye, hit something with golden phoenix strike, and death blossom/moebius strike spam everything to the ground. I didn't even have mystic regen unlocked, it would have been near impossible to die with it. Even without it, I found dying was a very rare occurrence, almost always happening in situations where nearly any class would have died (oh noes, I pulled 4 groups on accident!).

On the other hard, I found rit to be considerably more difficult.

Don't be afraid of playing a 'sin! It's pretty fun too - probably my favorite class alongside ranger.

Limu Tolkki · Dec 22, 2007, 10:33 AM // 10:33

If you play pve dont choose assassin...

Quaker · Dec 22, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by h9dlb

Just got factions and installing - which class is most fun to play - ritualist or assasin ?

This is another one of those useless questions. How can anyone tell you which one you'll have more fun playing?

It comes down to this - the Assassin is a melee character, the Ritualist is a spellcaster - which do you prefer?

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Originally Posted by Vargs

I don't understand the whole "Assassin is hard to play" thing.
I'd generally just hit critical defenses/critical agility (crit defenses wore off mid fight half the time but it never mattered) and sprint right into the fray ahead of my henchies, which according to this board is a death wish.

I never understood that either. My Assassin has been through all 3 campaigns and EotN (doing H&H) using a build based around Flashing Blades - no CA, no CD, no Mobious, no IAS - which the "leets" in the Assassin forum will tell you is "OMG! bad!".

Crimson Flame · Dec 22, 2007, 05:17 PM // 17:17

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Originally Posted by Quaker

I never understood that either. My Assassin has been through all 3 campaigns and EotN (doing H&H) using a build based around Flashing Blades - no CA, no CD, no Mobious, no IAS - which the "leets" in the Assassin forum will tell you is "OMG! bad!".

The leets are morons. Flashing Blades isn't a bad elite at all because it basically forces you to attack to get the benefits, and since a lot of sin builds will run 15 or 16 in DM you can keep it on forever. I prefer Moebius myself, but I have no qualms with anyone who runs a FB build.

Kale Ironfist · Dec 23, 2007, 12:01 AM // 00:01

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Originally Posted by Crimson Flame

The leets are morons. Flashing Blades isn't a bad elite at all because it basically forces you to attack to get the benefits, and since a lot of sin builds will run 15 or 16 in DM you can keep it on forever. I prefer Moebius myself, but I have no qualms with anyone who runs a FB build.

It's not bad, as in, absolutely useless bad. It's bad because it's subpar (Critical Defenses anyone?).

When you can get 75% block without taking your elite slot and without the conditionality and still have it up permanently... and you choose the worse of the two, you have to have a good reason why.

Most of the time, that reason doesn't exist in PvE.

**Marty Silverblade** · Dec 23, 2007, 12:17 AM // 00:17

Personally, I haven't played either profession, but I've wanted to have a go at Rits. Really though, it's up to what sort of character you like to play.

Biostem · Dec 23, 2007, 12:22 AM // 00:22

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Originally Posted by h9dlb

Just got factions and installing - which class is most fun to play - ritualist or assasin ?

One thing to keep in mind is that because you'll initially be playing in the campaign the assassin/ritualist came from, you'll encounter a lot of enemies that are also assassins/ritualists. Thus, you'll get a skewed view of things. Conversely, if you take any of these characters to other campaigns, it'll feel different as well, since there'll be less specific counters to your strengths.

But, as another poster mentioned, it's really up to you. Overall, the ritualist is more versatile, while the assassin is a specialist. That's not even taking into account the fact that one is a melee combatant and the other is a caster.

IMO, though, I prefer the more straightforward role of the assassin; but then, I prefer melee over casters.

Dec 21, 2007, 12:24 PM // 12:24	#1
h9dlb Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leeds England Profession: W/	factions - which class? Just got factions and installing - which class is most fun to play - ritualist or assasin ?

Dec 21, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02	#8
Neo Nugget Site Contributor Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: R/	I don't like the stress of playing a monk, the ritualist doesn't have as much pressure, good for support plus they have nifty damage skills. Assassins are also fun to play too __________________ "Even if the morrow is barren of promises, nothing shall forestall my return."

Dec 21, 2007, 12:35 PM // 12:35	#2
Coridan Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: US Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG} Profession: W/	i would say if you are experienced go with an assassin ....if not try the rit

Dec 21, 2007, 12:37 PM // 12:37	#3
Toutatis Walking Wiki Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Isle of Medication Guild: Visitors from Aranna [VFA] Profession: Me/E	I enjoy both of them. Although of the two of them, my preference would be for the assassin. Though if you start playing as an assassin, remember these two things: Assassins are squishy compared to Warriors, and a lot of monsters in Factions explode on death. Expect your death count to go up very quickly while you learn how to play the class

Dec 21, 2007, 12:59 PM // 12:59	#4
Crom The Pale Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Ageis Ascending Profession: W/	Personally I find the Ritualist much more fun to play. They have a good variety of builds. Rits can be support healers with Restoration, party buffers with Weapon spells, Spirit spamers that can deal damage inflict conditions remove enchants and interupt, and with Channelling you get some of the most powerfull Lightning attack spells in all of GW. If your playing PvE then the Rit is deffinatly the better choice in my oppinion.

Dec 21, 2007, 01:03 PM // 13:03	#5
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	The Ritualist is a support hybrid class, capable of healing and offensively buffing at the same time. [skill]ancestors' rage[/skill] and [skill]splinter weapon[/skill] are two of the strongest offensive skills out there. The Assassin... kills stuff, basically. They're fragile but powerful.

Dec 21, 2007, 01:06 PM // 13:06	#6
God of the blade Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Delft ^_^ Guild: Defenders of the Blackblade Profession: Mo/E	Ritualist = party support, summoning spirits, aid your team by enhancing their weapons Assassin = basicly kill things under 3 seconds in pvp :/ , assassins are very weak based on defense, but make it up with their deadly dagger combo's i play them both and my choice goes to my assassin

Dec 21, 2007, 03:58 PM // 15:58	#7
Shadow Spirit Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago Guild: your cat eats dog food [pup] Profession: N/E	I've been enjoying playing my Assassin a lot lately. But as others have said, remeber you are not a warrior. In and out quick strikes is the strength of the class. Rits are fun too and there are some great farming builds for them (if you're into that kind of thing) mostly based around [card]Vengeful Was Khanhei[/card]

Dec 21, 2007, 04:02 PM // 16:02	#9
free_fall Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005	I hated playing my assassin and was never so glad to finish a campaign with a char as I was with him. Now, I'll be the first to admit I wasn't very good at it - I just couldn't seem to get the hang of it. People who have gotten the hang of it have my admiration and I have seen a few good assassins do some really amazing things (like the one I watched solo Scareater 7 times in a row - we go out the door, he runs over to Scareater, bang!, Scareater's dead and the sin is back beside me). Most sins I've encountered in the game (including my own) seem to spend more time dead than alive - their only purpose to supply a steady source of minions for Olias. On the other hand, my rit breezed through all 3 campaigns, never even using any elites (other than to cap something, try it out a bit and then take it off my bar). I had such a rollicking good time playing her that I made another one, who is now my 1st char to achieve Legendary Survivor title.

Dec 21, 2007, 07:00 PM // 19:00	#10
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	the assassin is more difficult to get the 'hang' of, and many pugs will not take them in their party (if you have a good guild then you might fair better), rits have more than just restoration at their disposal. I have 2 rits and they do a fair amount of damage using channeling spells (using just bloodsong, essence strike and spirit burn....and then if its a stationary target spirit rift....lots of damage---there are more that I use but these are my favs). Rits can be defensive with weapon skills as well. It all depends on what you want to do with the game, if you are just getting factions you will get 2 character slots so you can try both out and see which one fits your type of game play (I have and I still cant get a good handle on the 'sin , but then again I just started my first warrior a few months ago as well--never like what they looked like!).SO try them out and see which you prefer (and you can always delete one if you dont like it). good luck on whichever you decide upon!

Dec 21, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07	#11
h9dlb Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leeds England Profession: W/	Well guys you put me off assassin (which is a shame cos I have already collected loads of Gold Daggers), so I chose Ritualist which I am finding to be very different compared to the Warrior I ran through Nightfall, Prophecies & Gwen. Anyway cant understand why so many people slag off Factions because I think it's great. It is a little easy (I got to level 5 in about 90 minutes) but whose complaining !

Dec 22, 2007, 09:04 AM // 09:04	#13
Woop Shotty Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: Ruthless Mafia [RM] Profession: Mo/	Ritualists are more fun to play and are accepted into groups more often. Ritualists all the way! Spellcasters are more fun usually anyway.

Dec 22, 2007, 10:03 AM // 10:03	#14
Vargs Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Happy Fun Rainbow Adventure Profession: Rt/	I don't understand the whole "Assassin is hard to play" thing. Now I haven't done anything on my sin other than complete Factions and a bit of Nightfall, but I definitely felt it was an easy class to play, at least using a cookie cutter Moebius Blossom build. Things may change on HM and whatnot, but I just don't get it when people complain about dying constantly as a sin in NM. I'd generally just hit critical defenses/critical agility (crit defenses wore off mid fight half the time but it never mattered) and sprint right into the fray ahead of my henchies, which according to this board is a death wish. Use critical eye, hit something with golden phoenix strike, and death blossom/moebius strike spam everything to the ground. I didn't even have mystic regen unlocked, it would have been near impossible to die with it. Even without it, I found dying was a very rare occurrence, almost always happening in situations where nearly any class would have died (oh noes, I pulled 4 groups on accident!). On the other hard, I found rit to be considerably more difficult. Don't be afraid of playing a 'sin! It's pretty fun too - probably my favorite class alongside ranger.

Dec 22, 2007, 10:33 AM // 10:33	#15
Limu Tolkki Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: Hate The [Cape] Profession: E/	If you play pve dont choose assassin...

Dec 23, 2007, 12:17 AM // 00:17	#19
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	Personally, I haven't played either profession, but I've wanted to have a go at Rits. Really though, it's up to what sort of character you like to play.